Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/19/1999 10:25 AM Senate FIN

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SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                                        
April 19, 1999                                                                                                                  
10:25 A.M.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TAPES                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SFC-99 #97, Side A & Side B                                                                                                     
SFC-99 #98, Side A & Side B                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell reconvened the meeting at approximately                                                                        
10:25 A.M.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell, Senators John Torgerson, Randy Phillips,                                                                      
Dave Donley, Loren Leman, Gary Wilken, Al Adams and Lyda                                                                        
Green.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending: SENATOR DRUE PEARCE; SENATOR JONNY ELLIS;                                                                       
DAVID TEAL, Director, Division of Legislative Finance;                                                                          
BARBARA FRANK, Director, Division of Administration                                                                             
Services, Department of Environmental Conservation; DOUG                                                                        
MECUM, Director, Division of Commercial Fisheries,                                                                              
Department of Fish and Game.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB  83-SUPPLEMENTAL/CAPITAL APPROPS                                                                                             
HB  50-OPERATING BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS                                                                                          
HB  51-MENTAL HEALTH APPROPRIATIONS                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell convened the Senate Finance Committee                                                                          
meeting, outlining the schedule for hearing of amendments on                                                                    
the operating budget.  He commented that the Committee would                                                                    
begin working on the amendments from the Department of                                                                          
Commerce and Economic Development.  He advised that if the                                                                      
funding source was not specified in the amendment, the                                                                          
amendment would be treated as general fund dollars.  The                                                                        
Senate closeout reports will be adjusted for any position                                                                       
count changes. Additionally, the Committee will direct the                                                                      
Division of Legislative Legal and Legislative Finance to                                                                        
make any technical adjustments to the bill upon completion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams noted that the spreadsheets were difficult to                                                                     
read and requested that Legislative Finance Division reprint                                                                    
and provide cut sheets.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell stated it would be possible for Legislative                                                                    
Finance to provide a component summary.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair explained that the work draft, version K,                                                                              
incorporated HB 50, the entire Front Section with no changes                                                                    
made and included the subcommittee reports to the back                                                                          
section.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 HOUSE BILL NO. 50                                                                                                              
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                             
loan program expenses of state government, for certain                                                                          
programs, and to capitalize funds; making                                                                                       
appropriations under art. IX, sec. 17c, Constitution of                                                                         
the State of Alaska, from the constitutional budget                                                                             
reserve fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 50(FIN)                                                                                                  
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                             
loan program expenses of state government, for certain                                                                          
programs, and to capitalize funds; making                                                                                       
appropriations under art. IX, sec. 17c, Constitution of                                                                         
the State of Alaska, from the constitutional budget                                                                             
reserve fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 50(FIN)(brf sup maj fld)                                                                                 
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                             
loan program expenses of state government, for certain                                                                          
programs, and to capitalize funds; and providing for an                                                                         
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell called the Committee back to order.  Co-                                                                       
Chair Torgerson MOVED SCS CSHB 50(FIN) work draft version                                                                       
"K".  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell explained the first set of amendments were                                                                     
to the Department of Administration.  It was his intent to                                                                      
skip to the Department of Commerce and Economic Development.                                                                    
He noted that the Department of Administration amendments                                                                       
would be addressed last.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DCED #1.  The amendment would reduce the amount paid to the                                                                     
foreign contractor personnel who act as the field office                                                                        
liaison in Japan and Korea in the amount of $71,500 dollars.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley MOVED DCED #1 on behalf of Representative                                                                        
Cowdry.  Senator Green OBJECTED.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green explained that because of the proposed                                                                            
reductions and changes for the millenium plan bill,                                                                             
financial support be continued for this component.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams said he supported the addition of the $71,000                                                                     
dollars.  He stressed the need to continue to diversify the                                                                     
State's economy.  He noted that 50% of our exports go to                                                                        
these two countries.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken questioned if the issue was "money" or the                                                                       
fact that there had not been a competitive bid put out.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley commented that Representative Cowdry was                                                                         
concerned about the competitive process.  He understood that                                                                    
the cut would not eliminate the Japanese and Korean office,                                                                     
but instead reduce the amount to the Senate budget.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
In response to Senator Green, Co-Chair Parnell pointed out                                                                      
the second page of the amendment which illustrated the                                                                          
allocation reduction.  He commented that it was not                                                                             
Representative Cowdry's intent to "shut down" the Alaskan                                                                       
presence in these foreign countries, but rather to make them                                                                    
competitively bid contracts.  Co-Chair voiced support for                                                                       
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                         
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
OPPOSED:  Wilken, Adams, Green                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-3).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DCED #2.  The amendment would add $40 thousand dollars to                                                                       
the Banking, Securities and Corporations component.  Senator                                                                    
Adams MOVED to adopt DCED #2.  Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell advised that any increase to general fund                                                                      
receipts will be considered an increase to total spending.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green commented that the amendment would not allow                                                                      
for any new hire and that there was room for flexibility in                                                                     
the Division.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley asked if user fees were charged for travel                                                                       
expenses.  Senator Adams responded that this amendment would                                                                    
provide contract services for the banking institute in order                                                                    
to meet with the Department of Law.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley agreed that this was a difficult area.  He                                                                       
recommended that some of the program receipts should be                                                                         
placed in a different category.  The Division of Insurance                                                                      
also has the same problems.  The way it is written makes it                                                                     
seem as thought the State is spending money rather than                                                                         
taking it in.  Co-Chair Parnell agreed, pointing out that                                                                       
there are several sections of the budget similar to that.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Wilken, P. Kelly, Leman, Phillips, Donley,                                                                             
Green, Torgerson, Parnell                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DCED #3.  The amendment would add $114 thousand dollars to                                                                      
the Banking, Securities and Corporations component of the                                                                       
Department's budget.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt DCEC #3.                                                                     
Senators Torgerson and Senator Green OBJECTED.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the component would add extra                                                                      
funds for a security examiner.  Without this position, there                                                                    
will be no routine examination of investment advice.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Wilken, P. Kelly, Phillips, Donley, Leman,                                                                             
Green, Torgerson, Parnell                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DCED #4.  The amendment would add $233.8 thousand general                                                                       
fund dollars to the Trade and Development component in the                                                                      
Executive Administration and Development BRU.  Senator Adams                                                                    
MOVED to adopt DCED #4.  Co-Chair Torgerson and Green                                                                           
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams emphasized that this was the #1 priority for                                                                      
the Department.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green responded that business specialist already                                                                        
occupy these positions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED:  Leman, P. Kelly, Phillips, Donley, Wilken,                                                                            
Green, Parnell, Torgerson                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
At 10:55 A.M., Co-Chair Parnell recessed the Senate Finance                                                                     
Committee meeting until 1:00 P.M.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
(Tape SFC-99 #97, Side A, Log #316.)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell reconvened the Committee at 1:20 p.m.  All                                                                     
members were present.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 51                                                                                                               
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                             
capital expenses of the state's integrated                                                                                      
comprehensive mental health program; and providing for                                                                          
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 51(FIN)                                                                                                   
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                             
capital expenses of the state's integrated                                                                                      
comprehensive mental health program; and providing for                                                                          
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CS FOR CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 51(FIN)                                                                                     
"An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                             
capital expenses of the state's integrated                                                                                      
comprehensive mental health program; and providing for                                                                          
an effective date."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell advised members that it was important to                                                                       
adopt the Mental Health draft to which some amendments had                                                                      
been written to.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt SCS CSHB
51(FIN) work draft version "B".  There being NO OBJECTION,                                                                      
it was adopted.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DCRA #1.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt DCRA #1.  Co-                                                                       
Chair Parnell explained that this was a PCE program                                                                             
amendment change.  The House left $17 million dollars of                                                                        
funds in reserve, however, that amount was not remaining in                                                                     
that fund.  The amendment would take that number down to                                                                        
$4.180 million dollars, which is the amount currently                                                                           
available in that fund.  Senator Adams OBJECTED, that there                                                                     
was no long-range plan.  He suggested that SB 157 was                                                                           
available to use as a vehicle.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman,                                                                                    
Wilken, P. Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                               
OPPOSED:  Adams                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (8-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell HELD amendments DCRA #2 through DCRA #6.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #1.  The amendment would add $1.827 million                                                                         
dollars to the Out-of-State Contracts for the Department.                                                                       
Senator Adams MOVED Corrections #4.  Co-Chair Torgerson                                                                         
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the amendment would increase                                                                       
the number of out-of-state beds by one hundred.  Co-Chair                                                                       
Parnell advised that he opposed any amendments that would                                                                       
increase the bed count.  He stated that he had been working                                                                     
closely with Commissioner Pugh regarding the concern and                                                                        
that he had advised her to reevaluate the proposed numbers                                                                      
since the prison population is decreasing.  Senator Adams                                                                       
questioned the notion that the prison population is                                                                             
declining.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips asked if he could amend Corrections #1 to                                                                      
include amendments Corrections #1 through #9.  Co-Chair                                                                         
Parnell explained that there were other amendments included                                                                     
in that group that were not "bed" related.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams had no objection to including all the                                                                             
amendments bed-related, however, he would ask that the                                                                          
amendments concerning probation officers not be included in                                                                     
Corrections #1.  Senator Adams MOVED to amend Corrections #1                                                                    
to include Corrections #3, #5, and #6.  There being NO                                                                          
OBJECTION, Corrections #1 would now include Corrections #3,                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the main motion to adopt                                                                          
Corrections #1 as amended.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Adams                                                                                                                 
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Phillips, Leman, Wilken,                                                                           
Green                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley was not present for the vote.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #2.  The amendment would add $415.1 thousand                                                                        
general fund dollars to the Southcentral Region Probation                                                                       
office.  Senator Adams MOVED Corrections #2.  Co-Chair                                                                          
Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell requested that Corrections #2 be HELD for                                                                      
later discussion.  Senator Adams WITHDREW the MOTION to                                                                         
adopt Corrections #2 until a later time.  There being NO                                                                        
OBJECTION, Corrections #2 was HELD for further                                                                                  
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #3.  The amendment had been incorporated into                                                                       
Corrections #1 and failed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #4.  The amendment would add $30 thousand                                                                           
general fund dollars and $95.3 general fund program receipt                                                                     
dollars to the Institutional Director's Office for the                                                                          
Department.  Senator Adams MOVED Corrections #4.  Co-Chair                                                                      
Parnell OJBECTED.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that in the long run it would save                                                                      
State money while at the same time, positively impacting the                                                                    
prison population.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Leman, Wilken, P. Kelly,                                                                           
Green, Phillips                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley was not present for the vote.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #5 had been incorporated into Corrections #1 and                                                                    
failed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #6 had been incorporated into Corrections #1 and                                                                    
failed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #7.  Co-Chair Parnell requested that Corrections                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #8.  The amendment would delete $96.3 thousand                                                                      
federal dollars from the Food Service Program and add it to                                                                     
the Office of the Commissioner. Senator Adams MOVED                                                                             
Corrections #8.  Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the amendment would RSA the                                                                        
funds to the Department of Law for assistance from the                                                                          
Attorney General's office on complicated projects.  Co-Chair                                                                    
Parnell understood that the original amendment came from                                                                        
Senator Ward.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Leman, Wilken, P. Kelly,                                                                           
Green, Phillips                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley was not present for the vote.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Corrections #9.  The amendment would add $80 thousand                                                                           
federal dollars to Administrative Services at Department of                                                                     
Corrections.  Senator Adams MOVED Corrections #9.  Co-Chair                                                                     
Parnell OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the funding would help the                                                                         
management information system within the Department.                                                                            
Without the authorization, the Department would be unable to                                                                    
grant sufficient staff to adequately maintain the agency                                                                        
network.  He emphasized that these would be federal funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  Senator Leman                                                                         
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Wilken, Adams, P. Kelly, Green, Parnell,                                                                             
OPPOSED:  Phillips, Leman, Torgerson                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley was not present for the vote.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (5-3).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
At 1:40 P.M., Co-Chair Parnell recessed the Senate Finance                                                                      
Committee until 2:05 P.M.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell reconvened the Senate Finance Committee at                                                                     
approximately 2:05 P.M., noting that Senator Wilken and                                                                         
Senator P.  Kelly were absent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA COURT SYSTEM                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell noted that there were no amendments for the                                                                    
Alaska Court System.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC#1.  The amendment would delete $1.715 million federal                                                                       
receipt dollars for the Water Quality component and moving                                                                      
that amount to the Non-Point Source Pollution Control                                                                           
component.  Additionally, the amendment would add Intent                                                                        
Language for a New Appropriation.  The intent of the                                                                            
Legislature would be that Section 319(h) federal non-point                                                                      
source pollution control funding be spent only for grants to                                                                    
program applicants who qualify for Section 319 funding.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman MOVED to adopt DEC #1. There being NO                                                                             
OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEC#8.  The amendment is a Letter of Intent to accompany                                                                        
DEC#1.  Senator Leman MOVED DEC #8.  He explained that it                                                                       
would work in conjunction with DEC#8 (Letter of Intent).                                                                        
There being NO OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEC#2. The amendment would delete a total of $1,531.8                                                                           
million dollars from the Contaminated Sites component and                                                                       
Storage Tank Program component and add $6,443.4 million                                                                         
dollars back to the Contaminated Sites Program component.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman MOVED to adopt DEC#2.  Senator Adams OBJECTED.                                                                    
Senator Leman explained the amendment would consolidate two                                                                     
programs under one BRU, which, he believed would provide the                                                                    
department more flexibility.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams questioned if that action could reduce                                                                            
administrative services.  Senator Leman replied that it                                                                         
would not, but would however, consolidate them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams maintained his objection to the amendment.  He                                                                    
inquired if there would be a savings.  Senator Leman replied                                                                    
that the savings would come from the reduction in employees                                                                     
to the storage tank component.  Senator Adams emphasized                                                                        
that the merger of underground storage tanks and above                                                                          
ground storage tank would not be a good move.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Leman, Phillips, Donley, Green, Parnell,                                                                              
Torgerson                                                                                                                       
OPPOSED:  Adams                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator P. Kelly and Senator Wilken were not present for the                                                                    
vote.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC #3.  A technical amendment to restore a portion of the                                                                      
CIP expenditure authority that was deleted as part of the                                                                       
number of employees in the component for the Storage Tank                                                                       
Program in the amount of $29.1 thousand dollars.  Senator                                                                       
Leman MOVED to adopt the amendment.  There being NO                                                                             
OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEC #4.  Senator Leman explained that the amendment would                                                                       
take $126.1 thousand dollars from the Administrative                                                                            
Services component from two information officers and would                                                                      
change that amount to the same component to delete two                                                                          
permanent full-time positions and their funding by applying                                                                     
a portion of the Governor's belt-tightening.  Senator Leman                                                                     
MOVED to adopt the amendment.  Senator Adams OBJECTED.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE SFC - 99 #97, SIDE B                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell questioned the role of the information                                                                         
officers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA FRANK, Director, Administrative Services, Department                                                                    
of Environmental Conservation, explained that the role of                                                                       
the information officers is to provide information to the                                                                       
public in a variety of ways.  Additionally, they address the                                                                    
programs related to the regulatory packages and on all major                                                                    
permit projects, which are part of the permitting appeals                                                                       
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Torgerson, Parnell                                                                           
OPPOSED:  Phillips, Donley, Adams                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken was not present for the vote.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-3).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC #5.  The amendment would add $330 thousand satutory                                                                         
designated program receipt dollars for the Food Safety and                                                                      
Sanitation component. Senator Adams MOVED to adopt the                                                                          
amendment.  Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained the need for the amendment and                                                                          
situations around the State which have resulted in food born                                                                    
illness.  Facilities have traditionally been checked three                                                                      
to four times a year.  Without the funding, the facilities                                                                      
will only be inspected once every year and a half.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman noted that the Subcommittee's goal was to                                                                         
create no new positions for that Department.  He pointed out                                                                    
that the amendment would add four new positions.  Senator                                                                       
Adams urged that public safety and public health be taken                                                                       
into consideration and that the situation involves camps and                                                                    
daycare centers.  Co-Chair Parnell advised that $3.4 million                                                                    
dollars had been funded to that area.  Senator Adams                                                                            
countered that amount would not fulfill the number of                                                                           
inspectors needed around the State.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman clarified there was other legislation that                                                                        
would address the shifting of some of these responsibilities                                                                    
to the local governments.  Senator Adams argued that it is a                                                                    
difficult task to project which legislation will pass.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Wilken, Green, Parnell, Torgerson, P. Kelly,                                                                           
Donley, Phillips, Leman                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC #6.  The amendment would add $227.2 thousand dollars                                                                        
from the Response Fund and $5880.3 thousand CIP receipts                                                                        
dollars to the Storage Tank Program.  Senator Adams MOVED                                                                       
the amendment.  Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Wilken, Green, Parnell, Torgerson, P. Kelly,                                                                           
Donley, Phillips, Leman                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC #7.  The amendment would add $155.8 thousand CIP dollars                                                                    
to the Village Safe Water Project Management and $64                                                                            
thousand CIP dollars to the Administrative Services                                                                             
component.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt the amendment.                                                                         
Senator Leman OBJECTED.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman stated that the Subcommittee identified this                                                                      
area to which the Department was requesting additional                                                                          
services.  He commented that instead of adding new staff                                                                        
positions to the Department, the Subcommittee recommended                                                                       
adding to the contractual line, $6 thousand dollars per                                                                         
community for new feasibility studies.  He reiterated that                                                                      
this is not a good time to be hiring more junior level                                                                          
engineer positions, given the scope of the project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the amendment originated with                                                                      
assistance from Legislative Audit Division.  The money from                                                                     
the amendment would provide technical assistance to the                                                                         
village areas.  Senator Leman argued that the State is                                                                          
currently providing technical assistance.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken questioned if it was the intent to put new                                                                       
projects out to bid.  Senator Leman explained that the                                                                          
Village Safe Water Program already puts their projects out                                                                      
to bid.  What they are requesting is the addition of four                                                                       
more positions to the engineering staff to better address                                                                       
projects.  The Subcommittee suggests that engineers could                                                                       
better handle them.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken noted that he had a conflict of interest, as                                                                     
he was a member of a company participating in that group and                                                                    
requested to be excused from voting.  Senator Phillips                                                                          
OBJECTED.  Co-Chair Parnell indicated Senator Wilken would                                                                      
be required to vote on the amendment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams, Wilken                                                                                                        
OPPOSED: Leman, P. Kelly, Green, Parnell, Torgerson,                                                                            
Phillips, Donley                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEC #8.  The amendment was previously addressed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
F&G #1.  The amendment would add language regarding the                                                                         
intent of the Legislature that the Division of Sport Fish to                                                                    
establish a partnership for the operation of the Crystal                                                                        
Lake Hatchery in order to reduce by 50% the Division's cost                                                                     
of operations.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt the                                                                           
amendment.  Senator Adams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson advised that the Department had submitted                                                                    
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DOUG MECUM, Director, Division of Commercial Fisheries,                                                                         
Department of Fish and Game, acknowledged that the                                                                              
Department supported the amendment.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                           
further OBJECTION, F&G #1 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
F&G #2.  Senator Donley advised the Committee that he would                                                                     
not be offering F&G #2.  The amendment was withdrawn.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
F&G #3.  The amendment would add $383.65 thousand general                                                                       
fund dollars to the Headquarters component in the Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries BRU.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt amendment F&G                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams noted that funding would replace federal                                                                          
receipt authority the Subcommittee gave the Department.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Donley, Wilken, P. Kelly, Green, Leman,                                                                                
Torgerson, Parnell, Phillips                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
At 2:35 P.M., Co-Chair Parnell recessed the Senate Finance                                                                      
Committee for a brief at ease.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
F&G #4.  The amendment would insert language regarding the                                                                      
expenditure of the Fish and Game Fund.  Senator Donley MOVED                                                                    
to adopt F&G #4.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell noted that there were no amendments from                                                                       
the Office of the Governor.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell stated that the amendments for the                                                                             
Department of Health and Social Services would be held for                                                                      
discussion later in the meeting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LABOR #1.  The amendment would restore the funding for two                                                                      
Wage and Hour Technicians.  The technicians handle all                                                                          
notifications of obligations to contractors on public work                                                                      
projects, disseminates information to contractors, sets up                                                                      
projects for monitoring, files all certified payroll                                                                            
received, conducts audits, etc.  The amendment would add $88                                                                    
thousand general fund dollars to the Labor Standards and                                                                        
Safety BRU.  Senator Donley MOVED Labor #1 at the request of                                                                    
the Department.  Senator Green OBJECTED                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green commented that the Subcommittee had worked                                                                        
with the Department to address this concern.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Donley, Adams                                                                                                        
OPPOSED: Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Parnell, Phillips,                                                                             
Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LABOR #2.  Senator Donley noted that he would not offer                                                                         
Labor #2.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LABOR #3.  Co-Chair Parnell requested that Labor #3 be HELD.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LABOR #4.  The amendment would restore existing positions                                                                       
and would add funding requested by the Governor for a boiler                                                                    
inspector in the amount of $238.7 thousand general fund                                                                         
program receipt dollars.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt Labor                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green explained that the Subcommittee, after working                                                                    
with the Department, had originally placed $80 thousand                                                                         
dollars for an inspector position in Fairbanks.  Senator                                                                        
Adams inquired how many were caught in the Juneau elevator                                                                      
because there were no elevator inspectors.  He stressed how                                                                     
important these positions are for public safety.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:   Adams                                                                                                               
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell noted that there were no amendments from                                                                       
the Department of Law.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DMVA #1.  The amendment would allow the Department to lease                                                                     
out the Kotzebue Armory and hangar.  The funds were budgeted                                                                    
in the Department of Administration's Leasing budget.  In                                                                       
the Subcommittee for Department of Administration, $125                                                                         
thousand dollars of receipt authority was dropped as they                                                                       
thought the facility was vacant.  Senator Phillips MOVED                                                                        
DMVA #1.  Senator Adams OBJECTED for further explanation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams asked if program receipts would be used to                                                                        
rent out the Kotzebue armory.  Following an explanation,                                                                        
Senator Adams WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                           
OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DMVA #2.  The amendment would add $116 thousand general fund                                                                    
dollars into funds not allocated to Department of Natural                                                                       
Resources.  Senator Phillips MOVED to adopt DMVA #2. Senator                                                                    
Adams OBJECTED.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams commented that the amendment would take                                                                           
funding from the Department of Natural Resources, which was                                                                     
intended to be used for land planning and development.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Leman, P. Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                     
OPPOSED:  Parnell, Torgerson, Wilken, Adams                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley was not present for the vote.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-4).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DMVA #3.  The amendment would add $500 thousand general fund                                                                    
dollars to the Front Section appropriation for the Disaster                                                                     
Relief Fund.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt DMVA #3.  Senator                                                                    
Green OBJECTED.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained this would be a wise move in case of                                                                    
a disaster.  It would capture $1.4 million federal fund                                                                         
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green. Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DNR #1.  The amendment would change the funding source for                                                                      
$1.44 million dollars of the appropriation from the general                                                                     
fund to permanent fund corporate receipts.  Co-Chair                                                                            
Torgerson MOVED to adopt the amendment.  Senator Adams                                                                          
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams asked if the numbers were the same as those                                                                       
presented in the House.  Co-Chair Parnell stated they were.                                                                     
Senator Adams WITHDREW the OBJECTION.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips OBJECTED.  Co-Chair Parnell explained that                                                                     
the amendment would supplant general fund money in the Oil &                                                                    
Gas development section with permanent fund corporate                                                                           
receipts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Committee took a brief at ease at approximately 3:00                                                                        
p.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DAVID TEAL, Director, Division of Legislative Finance,                                                                          
explained the amendment.  The money would be used to pay for                                                                    
operations within the Department of Natural Resources.  The                                                                     
effect on the dividend would not be immediate, nor would it                                                                     
be $1 million dollars less. In response to Co-Chair Parnell,                                                                    
Mr. Teal noted that the funding would be used for the oil                                                                       
and gas development section of Department of Natural                                                                            
Resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley asked if there would be a zero impact this                                                                       
year.  Mr. Teal replied that was correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Torgerson, Parnell, Donley, P. Kelly, Leman,                                                                          
Wilken                                                                                                                          
OPPOSED:  Phillips, Green, Adams                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6-3).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #2.  The amendment would add $50 thousand statutory                                                                         
designated program receipt dollars to the Interdepartmental                                                                     
Data Processing Charge-back in the Information/Data                                                                             
Management BRU.  The action would cover the increased Data                                                                      
Processing charges that are incurred by the Department when                                                                     
the public uses State resources for research. There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DNR #3.  The amendment would provide partial restoration of                                                                     
unallocated reduction in the amount of $70 thousand dollars                                                                     
to the Oil and Gas development component and additional                                                                         
partial restoration in the amount of $45.9 thousand dollars                                                                     
to the Commissioner's Office component.  Senator Adams MOVED                                                                    
to adopt the amendment.  Senator Phillips OBJECTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #4.  The amendment would add $75 thousand dollars to the                                                                    
Information Resources Management component for the                                                                              
Information/Data Management BRU.  Senator Adams MOVED to                                                                        
adopt the amendment.  Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DNR #5.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt the amendment.  He                                                                        
explained that the amendment would restore $726.4 thousand                                                                      
dollars to the Land Development component BRU and would be                                                                      
comprised of five deletions within that Department. Senator                                                                     
Phillips OBJECTED.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams emphasized that the addition of funds would                                                                       
encourage more interaction between the Federal and local                                                                        
governments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams, Leman                                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Wilken, P. Kelly,                                                                          
Green, Phillips                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DPS #1. The amendment would add $10.764 million dollars to                                                                      
the Enforcement component of the Fish and Wildlife                                                                              
Protection and would delete $10.454 million dollars from                                                                        
that same component.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt the                                                                          
amendment.  Senator Green OBJECTED for further discussion.                                                                      
Senator Green maintained her OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DPS #2. The amendment would add $32,986,900 general fund                                                                        
dollars to the Detachments component in the Alaska State                                                                        
Trooper Detachment BRU and would also delete $31,896,900                                                                        
general fund dollars from the same component.  Senator Adams                                                                    
MOVED to adopt the amendment.  Co-Chair Parnell OBJECTED.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the amendment would provide for                                                                    
insuring that registration for sex offenders occurs, it                                                                         
would provide funds to operate the Anchorage helicopter, and                                                                    
it would provide an information and communication system.                                                                       
Additionally, it would fund 10 - 12 full time positions.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DPS #3.  The amendment would add $5.766 million dollars to                                                                      
the contract component for the Village Public Safety Officer                                                                    
(VPSO) BRU and would delete $5.523 million dollars from that                                                                    
component.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt the amendment.                                                                         
Senator Donley OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that the amendment would fund a 5%                                                                      
pay increase for the VPSO's, providing a viable income for                                                                      
those officers.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DPS #4. The amendment would add $1,069,300 general fund                                                                         
dollars to the ASPIN component in the Statewide Support BRU                                                                     
and would delete $978,700 general fund dollars from that                                                                        
component.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt the amendment.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Green, P. Kelly,                                                                           
Leman, Phillips, Wilken                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DPS #5.  The amendment would add $2,203,800 general fund                                                                        
dollars to the Laboratory Services component in the                                                                             
Statewide Support BRU and would delete $1,965,300 general                                                                       
fund dollars from the same component.  Senator Adams MOVED                                                                      
to adopt the amendment.  Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman questioned who had been the Chair of this                                                                         
department.  It was noted that Senator Donley was Chair.                                                                        
Senator Leman asked if there were other sources for funding                                                                     
of DNA inspection which would satisfy crime line criteria.                                                                      
Senator Donley replied that one additional position had been                                                                    
added to the Crime Lab in the Senate version.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Donley, Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Parnell,                                                                               
Phillips, Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DPS #6.  The amendment would provide intent language that                                                                       
the Department:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1) Pay no more than 15% for administrative costs to                                                                             
nonprofit corporations administering the VPSO program;                                                                          
2) Not exceed 15% administration costs in future                                                                                
negotiations with nonprofit corporations;                                                                                       
3) Retain 100% of the a decision to place or relocate                                                                           
VPSO's in communities;                                                                                                          
4) Not place a VPSO in a community with established                                                                             
police department; and                                                                                                          
5) Work to relocate VPSO's in communities with                                                                                  
established police departments to communities that need                                                                         
VPSO's that have no police department.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley MOVED to adopt the amendment.  Senator Adams                                                                     
OBJECTED.  Senator Adams recommended that this language be                                                                      
placed into SB 132.  He urged that substance law not be                                                                         
included in the appropriation section of the operating                                                                          
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Donley, Green, Leman, Parnell, Phillips,                                                                              
Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                               
OPPOSED:  Adams, P. Kelly                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (7-2).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REV #1.  Senator Leman noted that he would not offer REV #1.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REV #2.  Senator Leman explained that REV #2 would add $300                                                                     
thousand general fund dollars to the Oil and Gas Audit                                                                          
component and would delete $150 thousand general fund                                                                           
dollars and would add $150 thousand AHFC Corporate Receipts                                                                     
to the Capital Project-Department of Health and Social                                                                          
Services - Housing Modifications for People with Special                                                                        
Needs.  Additionally, it would delete $250 thousand general                                                                     
fund dollars and would add $250 thousand AHFC Corporate                                                                         
Receipt dollars to the Capital Project-Department of Health                                                                     
and Social Services-Program Facilities Deferred Maintenance                                                                     
and Americans with Disabilities Act Upgrade.  Senator Leman                                                                     
MOVED to adopt REV #2.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell explained that the AHFC corporate receipts                                                                     
were capital funds.  He advised that this information was                                                                       
clarified through an amendment attachment to REV #2.  He                                                                        
requested that Co-Chair Torgerson move that amendment.  Co-                                                                     
Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt the amendment to REV #2.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell commented briefly, explaining that the                                                                         
amendment would add the $300 thousand general fund dollars                                                                      
back to the Oil and Gas Audit Division.  He recognized that                                                                     
would be a very important function given the BP and ARCO                                                                        
merger and the decline in oil production.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell stated that a proposed bill by Senator                                                                         
Pearce would make these program receipts.  The House has                                                                        
fully funded them in the possibility that SB 134 does not                                                                       
pass.  Senator Adams asked if the designated statutory                                                                          
program receipts would cover the cost.  Co-Chair Parnell                                                                        
replied that it would cover the cost of oil and gas in the                                                                      
same amount as those receipts.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION to the amendment to REV #2, it was                                                                     
ADOPTED.  There being NO OBJECTION to the amended REV #2, it                                                                    
was also adopted.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REV #3.  Senator Leman advised that REV #3 would not be                                                                         
offered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REV #4.  Senator Adams WITHDREW amendment REV #4.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REV #5.  The amendment would add $100 thousand dollars to                                                                       
the Permanent Fund Corporation component.  Senator Adams                                                                        
MOVED to adopt REV #5.  Co-Chair Parnell OBJECTED.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams explained that "There are times when we need                                                                      
to spend money to make money."  Senator Leman and Senator                                                                       
Adams discussed the success of the Permanent Fund                                                                               
Corporations investments. Senator Adams believed it would be                                                                    
a disservice to not fully fund the amendment request.                                                                           
Senator Leman pointed out that the proposed House number was                                                                    
$100,000 higher than the amendment request.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Donley, Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Parnell,                                                                               
Phillips, Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DOT #1.  The amendment would delete $3,548,400 dollars and                                                                      
insert $3,858,400 dollars into the Construction and CIP                                                                         
Support-Southeast Region Construction.  The amendment would                                                                     
allow for an increment of $310.0 CIP receipts for HET                                                                           
position months and overtime for construction projects in                                                                       
Southeast Alaska.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt the                                                                        
amendment.  Senator Adams OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donley inquired if the Juneau access road funds                                                                         
could be used for this component.  Co-Chair Torgerson                                                                           
replied that $200 million dollars had been authorized and                                                                       
they used $7 million.  Senator Donley voiced his continued                                                                      
concern in authorization without legislative approval.                                                                          
Senator Adams WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                           
OBEJCTION, DOT #1 was adopted.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DOT #2.  The amendment would add Intent Language that the                                                                       
Department prepare a report for the second session of the                                                                       
21st Alaska Legislature, identifying maintenance stations                                                                       
and airports in the region that they recommend, to be                                                                           
consolidated or transferred to local government.  Also, all                                                                     
maintenance stations and airports in these areas should be                                                                      
ranked in priority order for closure consideration.  There                                                                      
being NO OBJECTION, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DOT #3.  The amendment would add $250 thousand general fund                                                                     
dollars to the Maintenance Stations component for the                                                                           
Northern & Central Regions BRU.  The addition would continue                                                                    
to fund one maintenance station in each district.  Senator                                                                      
Adams MOVED to adopt the amendment.  Co-Chair Torgerson                                                                         
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Donley, Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Parnell,                                                                               
Phillips, Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell noted that the Committee would not take up                                                                     
the University of Alaska amendments at this time.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
FRONT SECTION                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #1.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt FRONT #1.  He                                                                      
explained there would be a conceptual amendment forthcoming.                                                                    
He pointed out that the amendment only deals with general                                                                       
funds and that it was the recommendation of both Legislative                                                                    
Finance Division and Legislative Legal to include "other"                                                                       
funds. A corrected version of the amendment is being drafted                                                                    
by Legislative Legal Services.  The intent of the amendment                                                                     
would be to move the Division of Occupational Licensing from                                                                    
the back section of the budget to the front section.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell advised the Committee that the conceptual                                                                      
amendment would include all funds in FRONT #1.  Co-Chair                                                                        
Torgerson agreed and WITHDREW FRONT #1.  There being NO                                                                         
OBJECTION, it was withdraw in order to wait for the new #1.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #2.  Co-Chair Torgerson requested to HOLD FRONT #2.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #3.  The amendment would address Alaska Seafood                                                                           
Marketing Institute (ASMI) money coming to the State.  They                                                                     
receive $3.5 million in federal funds; their fisheries                                                                          
provide $7 million dollars.  The amendment would move the                                                                       
authorization entirely to the Front Section of the budget.                                                                      
Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to adopt FRONT #3.  Senator Adams                                                                      
stated that he would not oppose the amendment, however,                                                                         
recommended that it be further scrutinized in the future.                                                                       
There being NO OBJECTION, FRONT #3 was adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #4.  Co-Chair Torgerson advised that he would not                                                                         
offer FRONT #4.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #5.  Co-Chair Torgerson noted that he would not offer                                                                     
FRONT #5.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #6.  The amendment would remove the federal authority                                                                     
portions of the bill which would enable Exxon Valdez to come                                                                    
forward to Legislative Budget and Audit to get projects                                                                         
approved not yet addressed.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED to                                                                        
adopt the amendment.  There being NO OBJECTION, the                                                                             
amendment was adopted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
FRONT #7.  The amendment would move the revenues from the                                                                       
M/V Malaspina to run as a day boat.  The amendment would                                                                        
clarify that it is not Legislative intent to subsidize that                                                                     
operation.  The vessel would become a full program receipt                                                                      
boat as established in Front #7.  Co-Chair Torgerson MOVED                                                                      
to adopt the amendment.  Senator Adams OBJECTED.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams commented that the amendment would affect only                                                                    
one boat, the M/V Malaspina.  He stressed that this is                                                                          
Southeast Alaska's highway system.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Donley, Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Parnell,                                                                              
Phillips, Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                     
OPPOSED:  Adams                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (8-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #1.  The amendment would add $350 thousand general                                                                        
fund/program receipt dollars to the Division of Motor                                                                           
Vehicles BRU.  Senator Donley MOVED to adopt ADMIN #1 noting                                                                    
that it would maintain the Division of Motor Vehicles at                                                                        
their FY99 authorized funding level.  It would also add the                                                                     
amount from program receipts already collected by the                                                                           
Division of Motor Vehicles.  Senator Adams OBJECTED.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams understood that public access had been taken                                                                      
and that a mail-in program had been established. He noted                                                                       
that he would not support ADMIN #4.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  P. Kelly, Green, Phillips, Donley                                                                                    
OPPOSED:  Leman, Wilken, Parnell, Torgerson, Adams                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-5).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #2.  Senator Donley MOVED to adopt ADMIN #2, which is                                                                     
similar to ADMIN #1, except that it would use the source of                                                                     
funding the addition of $350 thousand dollars from the                                                                          
Public Defenders office.  Senator Wilken OBJECTED.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Green, Phillips, Donley                                                                                              
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Wilken, Leman, Adams, P.                                                                           
Kelly                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #3.  Senator Donley WITHDREW the amendment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #4.  Co-Chair Parnell requested that Senator Adams not                                                                    
offer ADMIN #4 as it was a repeat.  Senator Adams agreed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #5.  The amendment would add $2.4 million dollars to                                                                      
the Longevity Bonus grants in order to restore the                                                                              
Governor's request.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt ADMIN #5.                                                                     
Co-Chair Parnell OBJECTED.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Donley, Green, P. Kelly, Leman, Parnell,                                                                               
Phillips, Torgerson, Wilken                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #6.  Co-Chair Parnell advised that ADMIN #6 had been                                                                      
withdrawn from the original amendment packets at his                                                                            
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #7.  The amendment would add Intent Language that the                                                                     
Office of Public Advocacy be funded adequately.  Senator                                                                        
Adams MOVED to adopt ADMIN #7.  Senator Wilken OBJECTED.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Senator Wilken MOVED an amendment to ADMIN #7.  The change                                                                      
would delete the language: "In order to fulfill all legal                                                                       
and statutory responsibilities".  There being NO OBJECTION                                                                      
to the amendment to ADMIN #7, it was adopted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson OBJECTED to the amended ADMIN #7.  He                                                                        
stated that it would lead to a future supplemental request.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams, Wilken                                                                                                        
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, P. Kelly,                                                                           
Green, Phillips                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (2-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #8.  The amendment would add Intent Language to the                                                                       
Public Defender component that office should be funded                                                                          
adequately in order to fulfill all legal and statutory                                                                          
responsibilities.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt ADMIN #8.                                                                       
Senators Torgerson and Senator Green OBJECTED.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #9.  The amendment would add $308.1 thousand general                                                                      
fund dollars and program receipt dollars to the Pioneer                                                                         
Homes.  Senator Adams MOVED to adopt ADMIN #9.  Co-Chair                                                                        
Torgerson OBJECTED.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken explained that the Subcommittee funded the                                                                       
Administration's request adding around 50 new care giver                                                                        
positions to the Pioneer Homes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Adams                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Parnell, Torgerson, Donley, Leman, Wilken, P.                                                                          
Kelly, Green, Phillips                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADMIN #10.  The amendment would add $420,600 dollars to the                                                                     
Citizen Foster Care Review Panel, Senior Services BRU.                                                                          
Senator Adams MOVED to adopt ADMIN #10.  Senator P. Kelly                                                                       
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken said they did not take the reduction lightly                                                                     
and that the Subcommittee followed the lead of the House.                                                                       
Senator Adams pointed out that the other body placed "no"                                                                       
funding in this component.  He recommended that the Senate                                                                      
not follow that lead.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:  Leman, Adams, P. Kelly, Green                                                                                        
OPPOSED:  Parnell, Torgerson, Wilken, Donley, Phillips                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-5).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The meeting recessed at 4:25 P.M.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell reconvened the Senate Finance Committee at                                                                     
approximately 7:57 P.M. and then adjourned the meeting until                                                                    
April 20, 1999 at 9:00 A.M.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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